Todd becoming a biblical scholar??? I don’t think so!! Another part of the letter to the same friend!
The Lordship salvation vs. free grace is a faith vs. works discussion
correct? The question is whether we can just believe that I am a
sinner, God loves me and that Jesus Christ died for our sin, and rose
from the grave and through him we can be saved or do we need to go a
step further and submit to Jesus Christ as Lord of our Life to be
saved?
At first blush, my initial reaction was who cares… I then started thinking about my own experience and maybe it does matter.
I consider my spiritual birthday May 5th, 2005, but by the standard of free grace it would of been 10 years earlier. I believed in God all my life, I was probably the most religious person in my family. It was a very easy leap for me to go from believing in God to believing that I am a sinner, and believed that Jesus Christ died for my sin and rose on the third day. There were a couple of days of awe of the decision I did, and then within a week, I was back to being the same lying, stealing, manipulative, perverted, pathetic piece of trash human that I always was (yes I am speaking kindly of myself). Great Christ died for me, all my sins are forgiven, great I am going to go out and continue living life the way I was, and every once in a while I will confess my sin and I will go to heaven. I continued driving my life straight into the ground. I drove my life to the point, where I was on the verge of losing my job, and ending up in jail.
My question to you, was I saved at this point? If I have died would I have gone to heaven at this point? My opinion is no. I don’t think so.
I think one of the sticking point in this whole debate is the word “believe”. I have heard it said that it is the action of faith. We have faith (noun) in Jesus Christ. We believe (verb) in Jesus Christ. I think both of those are synonyms. Nee talks about faith (believing) is an active word, and he found in the Darby translation of the bible it uses the word substantiating. His discussion was from Hebrews 11:1.
Looking up the word faith from verses 3:21, 26 in Strong’s Dictionary implies to me more than just an intellectual understanding of the truth.
4102. pi÷stiß pistis, pis?-tis; from 3982; persuasion, i.e. credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly, constancy in such profession; by extension, the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: — assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
The day you believe I think there has to be a desire to change your life, to nail the sin at the cross and start the sanctification process. I think that the belief that is required is a belief, a faith, a substantiating that JESUS CHRIST will change your life, will sanctify you. I think that the willingness to start that process is part of the belief at salvation. If you do not have the want/desire/willingness to change, then I don’t know if you are saved.
I did not have the desire to truly want to change until May 5, 2005. It is the day I believe I became a Christian. Does the belief that God has the power to change your life and the desire to have that happen constitute a work?
I am not necessarily saying that you must submit to God to be saved, but I do think the desire to change is necessary. I think this lands me in the middle some place.
“Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.”
(Romans 3:19-26 ESV)
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